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Open Panzer Help & Info => Open Panzer Help => Topic started by: kettenpaul on January 18, 2025, 04:57:03 PM

Title: Barrel smoker
Post by: kettenpaul on January 18, 2025, 04:57:03 PM

Hallo
Hat jemand diesen Typ  von Barrel smoker schon verbaut an OP  Platine angeschlossen.
Die smoker Platine hat einen Servostecker,laut Hersteller an den 3. Kanal am Empfänger.
Aber wie verbinden beim Board.
Im Wiki habe ich nur etwas mit der Relaisschaltung gefunden

Beste Grüsse

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: FuzzyJack on January 19, 2025, 01:18:23 AM

Hallo Kettenpaul,

Hast du dir diese Seite https://openpanzer.org/wiki/doku.php?id=wiki:tcb:tcbinstall:barrelsmoke,  das Sie zu dieser Konversation https://openpanzer.org/forum/index.php?topic=265.0?

Mit Strom und Anschluss a den ‘Flash“-Anschluss am TCB sollten Fassraucher wie dieser funktionieren.

Entschuldigung für das schlechte Deutsch, dafür kann ich nur Google und dem englischen Bildungssystem die Schuld geben!

Chris.

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: FuzzyJack on January 19, 2025, 01:33:06 AM

Ah…

I looked at the image again and as can see this has a 3 pin DuPont connector for connection to a servo.   So it is different to the one LukeZ originally needed the relay for.

There are multiple servo connectors on the TCB but they won’t be setup to do this probably.   Not sure if you could use the I/O ports in the same way LukeZ did with relay either.

Does the manufacturer say anything about what the signal to the servo connection should look like?   I would assume a shortish own signal that would tell the smoker to operate and the power is just on directly from the battery?

It might be possible to use one of the relay outputs to drive the servo but it probably won’t be setup to do that at the moment in the code.

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: FuzzyJack on January 19, 2025, 01:48:45 AM

Oooh…. I wonder if the recoil servo connection could be used for this anyway?

It fires when the trigger does and drives the servo to recoil the barrel for a period of time and then recoil for a period.

If you only wanted the fire part then setting the recoil time to 0ms would remove the reversal part (possibly, I haven’t checked the code) but at least the servo would operate to make some smoke first?

I am also assuming you aren’t using the recoil servo already and that the servo recoil while fire as well as the mechanical one when checked in OpConfig.

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: LukeZ on January 19, 2025, 03:06:45 AM

Hi Paul, I haven't experimented with the little circuit board that you show in your picture, but from what I can find on the internet it looks like it is intended to be used as "driving smoke" and not "barrel smoke." I suspect it wants you to attach the servo cable to your throttle channel, and smoke will be created as a function of your driving speed.

As Chris says you could try connecting the servo cable to the recoil servo output of the TCB. Maybe it will work or maybe not.

But what is guaranteed to work is the relay method described in the Wiki. You won't need the circuit that came with your smoker, but you can still use the air pump and the smoke box, just wire them as explained in the Wiki.

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: kettenpaul on January 19, 2025, 08:32:32 AM

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Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: kettenpaul on January 19, 2025, 09:26:36 AM

Hallo
ich habe an Anschluss A-den Turmdrehmotor
                 Anschluss B-Barrel heben senken Motor
                 Anschluss 5-Recoil Servo in Betrieb
                 und den Flash steckplatz ist auch belegt

Jetzt habe ich den smoker mit Batterieanschluss  und  einem Y-Kabel an Anschluss 5 angeschlossen ----geht nicht wie es soll
Auch ohne den Batterieanschluss----geht nicht wie es soll
Jetzt werde ich mal den steckplatz Flash versuchen
Aber ich glaube ich werde bei der Relaisschaltung ankommen.

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: LukeZ on January 19, 2025, 10:12:37 AM

Hi Paul, yes, I think you are getting to the relay circuit. The instructions on that page make clear that their smoke unit is intended to be connected to the throttle channel of the radio, meaning it provides smoke while driving, so it will not work with for barrel smoke.

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: kettenpaul on January 20, 2025, 03:39:05 PM

Habe den steckplatz Flash auch versucht-Geht nicht
Am Ende habe ich die Relaisversion angeschlossen---hervorragend  bin glücklich

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: LukeZ on January 21, 2025, 08:05:44 AM

I'm glad you got it working!

Title: Re: Barrel smoker
Post by: kettenpaul on January 22, 2025, 02:17:17 PM

 noch ein Wort.-----es funktioniert mit einer  Platine  von Hobby King