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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by Lotuswins on April 23, 2018, 02:20:14 PM »
Hi Luke,

I would like to modify my statement of the recoil on airsoft coordination being totally gone. 

If I have the airsoft switch off, and turn the radio then battery switch on and fire the cannon, the track recoil is coordinated.
I then turn on the airsoft switch, and it is still coordinated.
I then turn off the airsoft and fire....IR mode, okay.
I then turn on the airsoft switch, and bingo, non coordinated. 

I then did the same sequence, starting the tank after the battery switch is turned on, and same results..

I don't know if this helps your troubleshooting or not, but I thought it might.

jerry
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by Lotuswins on April 22, 2018, 11:01:31 PM »
Hi Luke,  again,

So I loaded up your latest firmware, and it indeed fixed the sound issue.  Unfortunately, the coordination of the sound/pellet/track recoil is now gone, totally?  Ha!!  how about that?   Best laid plans and all that.  Back to square one? 

Try it on yours, and confirm it?  I may have a bad airsoft limit switch (they do go bad I understand), but it still stops the sound and airsoft motor right after the pellet goes, so I'm doubting it. 

Thanks again, chat with you soon. 

Jerry
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by Lotuswins on April 22, 2018, 10:41:53 PM »
Hi Luke,

Thank you for the sound fix, I thought I was going nuts!!......Anyways, I'm sorry if it has taken you away from other, more important matters than our toys!!

Here is a run down on trying to identify the steps that take the tank to an non-coordinated sound/track recoil/pellet expulsion in an airsoft unit:

Okay, sequence of events:

Trial 1
Presets:  Airsoft 2 pos. sw. in off position. 

Radio on
Tank turned on from cold via battery switch
Started via transmitter switch (lower left of left joystick go to 100%)
Cycle airsoft switch to clear any presets (it will fire in airsoft mode initially if not cycled)
Shoot cannon in IR mode (airsoft sw. off) Results: recoil/sound in coordination.
Move Airsoft sw. to Airsoft mode. Shoot.  Results: recoil/sound/pellet expulsion in coordination.
Move Airsoft sw. to IR mode. 
Drive tank straight ahead, and fire cannon on the move. No recoil, of course, and cannon noise happens as expected.
Stop tank.
Move Airsoft sw. to Airsoft mode.
Shoot cannon.  Results: recoil happens initially like in IR mode, Airsoft motor winds up and shoots pellet.  Sound occurs as pellet expels. i.e. not coordinated.

Trial 2
Presets:  Airsoft sw. in on position
Radio turned on.
Tank turned on from cold via battery switch
Started via transmitter switch (lower left of left joystick go to 100%)
Shoot cannon in Airsoft mode. Results: recoil/sound in coordination.
Move Airsoft sw. to IR mode. Shoot.  Results: recoil/sound/pellet expulsion in coordination.
Drive tank straight ahead, and fire cannon. No recoil, of course, and cannon noise happens as expected.
Stop tank.
Move Airsoft sw. to Airsoft mode.
Shoot cannon.  Results: recoil happens initially like in IR mode, Airsoft motor winds up and shoots pellet.  Sound occurs as pellet expels. i.e. not coordinated
Conclusion: doesn't matter which position the airsoft switch is in initially on startup.

Trial 3
Presets: Airsoft sw. off
Tank turned on from cold via battery switch
Radio turned on (reverse of trials 1 & 2)
Repeat above two trials: Results: no change
Conclusions:  Radio/battery switch sequence not an issue.

Trial 4
Presets: Airsoft sw. off
Radio then tank batt sw. turned on.
Start tank via transmitter
Cycle airsoft sw.
Drive tank, shoot cannon while in motion, wait for flasher to cycle, stop tank.
Switch to airsoft mode, shoot cannon. Results: non coordinated
Switch to IR mode, shoot cannon. Results: Sound/Track recoil coordinated.
Switch to airsoft mode, shoot cannon. Results: It is now coordinated. 
Conclusion: Switching back to IR mode and shooting cannon seems to reset the airsoft cycle where the track recoil happens with pellet and sound i.e. the airsoft switch.

No rush on this!!  get the important stuff done.....I really understand, (been there.....)

Thanks again, I really appreciate your efforts!! 

Jerry
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by LukeZ on April 22, 2018, 06:53:13 PM »
With regards to the Taigen sound card not turning off - there was indeed a bug which I was able to identify in relatively short order, since it was just introduced a few weeks ago when changes were made to the sound code for adjustments to the TBS Mini. It is very common when a change is made in one place that it has unintended consequences in another, and this was one of those times.

I've posted a TCB firmware update (0.93.03) that corrects the Taigen issue. It also includes my "fix" that I posted for you in the test version a few days ago, I actually don't think that "fix" makes any difference to anything and apparently it didn't since you are still having issues with your airsoft. But regardless you can ignore the test version from here on out.

I will delve further into the airsoft thing later when I have some more time.
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by LukeZ on April 22, 2018, 05:39:06 PM »
It sounds like you have multiple things going on and it's not all entirely clear to me. Let us focus on a single issue at a time and ignore the others until one is resolved, and then move on to the next.

There should be never be a message about settings being "deleted." However if you import an OPZ file from an earlier version of OP Config into a later version of OP Config, your OPZ file may not have certain new settings that have been added since. OP Config may tell you that "not all settings were imported" which is fine, it just means your OPZ file doesn't know about the new settings. In this case you need to import your OPZ file to load all your old settings, then save back over the file you just imported. Now the new settings will be added to the file and you shouldn't see that message again.

Earlier we were working on a lack of synchronization between the airsoft and other effects, but which only happened after driving around. I don't doubt something is going on but I am skeptical that driving around is really the cause, so I was wondering if you could pinpoint the minimum state of things that might reproduce the issue, ie, just turn your tank on maybe with your airsoft on/off switch in different positions and see if the synchronization is missing right from the start, or see if changing the functions from on/off to toggle makes a difference, etc...

I won't have time this weekend to work on anything but maybe next week I can get back to it.
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by Lotuswins on April 22, 2018, 05:16:42 PM »
Hi Luke,

Tried a differnt LiPo, no joy

So then I re-calibrated the radio, thinking that would maybe be why it won't turn off the idle sound.  Nothing

So, with the tank started then shut off via transmitter, verified by smoker starting then stopping, I unplugged the lead to the Taigen sound card, and the sound stopped.  I plugged it back in and it stayed off.  Curious.

So I swapped with a known good Taigen sound card, and no change.

I'll try and go back a change or two in the hex files to see if that helps.

Jerry
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Settings for Airsoft and IR on one tank
« Last post by Lotuswins on April 22, 2018, 04:33:40 PM »
Hi Luke,

Okay, now I'm totally confused!!   Lets see if I can remember exactly what I actually did:

1)  I loaded the hex file you sent, thank you for that (I think?). 

2)  I loaded the saved Panther configuration file. Just to be sure. (got a note that 2 settings were deleted and need to resave a new file?)

3)  Tested the tank, and now the sound won't turn off....If I attempt to turn it off then the smoker quits, tank won't drive, etc. but the sound remains...cannon works, even airsoft, idle sounds still on.  Hmmm......
4)  So I tried to go back to the standard firmware flash, and reflashed it.   

5)  Pulled up the config file, and it repeats the 2 settings deleted, etc.)

6)  Sounds still won't turn off.  Checked the functions, and it still looks okay, lower left is toggle on/off.....??

7)  recoil/pellet/sound coordination is still off after running and firing in IR mode. 

I'm going to recharge the LiPo, just in case (did it recently but just in case) and repeat.  Jerry
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Big problem with TBS Mini
« Last post by Amaral on April 22, 2018, 10:02:17 AM »
Finally it works. I reflashed TBS firmware. But I must using only sounds from Tomas.

Its no problem - in his TBS file there is cannon sound and crew sounds - thats all I want with engine sound.

I will post vid how it works.

Thx Luke for support.
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Open Panzer Help / Re: TCB Power
« Last post by lauterbacher on April 21, 2018, 02:24:30 PM »

 Thank you for the replys.
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Open Panzer Help / Re: Benedini Mini and volume control with 9x pot?
« Last post by Shorty54 on April 20, 2018, 06:08:23 PM »
Great find Jerry!

I have a couple of these AMPS I bought from Dan at Battle Armor with the TBS minis when he was still in business.
They are larger than the one you have.  I like yours for use in smaller spaces.  I think I might try one to see how it compares.

This was off Battle Armors site;

This little gem produces 15 W X 2 channels of clean sound to give your tank some rumble and punch.

Customized to make hook up to the Benedini TBS quick and simple

Thanks
Shad
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